SHANKSVILLE WITNESSES

FLIGHT 93 SHANKSVILLE WITNESSES

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CORONER WALLACE MILLER

Before United 93 crashed smack-dab into his jurisdiction, Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller was probably most known for being a local Civil War buff. But today, he’s known nationally as the official who implied that there were no bodies on the plane that crashed into a Shanksville, Pennsylvania field. Wallace Miller is the coroner of Somerset County, Pennsylvania. He was among the first people to arrive at the alleged Flight 93 crash site on the morning of 9/11.

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The many misquotes of Wallace Miller
http://shoestring911.blogspot.com/2007/02/many-misquotes-of-wallace-miller.html

“This is the most eerie thing,” he told a Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reporter for an article on the first anniversary of the attacks. “I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop.”
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, 9/11/2002

“I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes because there were no bodies there”
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“It’s all aircraft parts, no human remains,” Miller said. “We’ve collected them in 10 recycling bin-sized containers and eventually we’ll turn them all over to United.”
http://old.post-gazette.com/headlines/20011027flight931027p5.asp
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Shanksville Coroner: No Bodies Found at 9/11 ‘Crash’ Site
http://humansarefree.com/2015/03/shanksville-coroner-no-bodies-found-at.html

““I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there. It became like a giant funeral service.” (Peter Perl, “Hallowed Ground,” Washington Post, 5/12/2002)”

“I said that I stopped being a coroner after about 20 minutes because it was perfectly clear what the cause and manner of death was gonna be.

“This is the most eerie thing. I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop.”

“It was as if the plane had stopped and let the passengers off before it crashed.” (Tom Gibb, “Newsmaker: Coroner’s quiet unflappability helps him take charge of Somerset tragedy,” Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 10/15/2001)

“It was a really a very unusual site. You almost would’ve thought the passengers had been dropped off somewhere. … Even by the standard model of an airplane crash, there was very little, even by those standards.” (CNN, 3/11/2002)

“‘The interesting thing about this particular case is that I haven’t, to this day, 11 months later, seen any single drop of blood. Not a drop. The only thing I can deduce is that the crash was over in half a second. There was a fireball 15-20 metres high, so all of that material just got vaporised.’” (“On Hallowed Ground,” The Age, 9/9/2002)
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RETRACTION

How can there be so many misquotes from the Somerset Coroner Wally Miller?

9/11 Flight 93 Shanksville : Wally Miller & Human Remains
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVUfN7RlgoQ

Wally Miller gives official explanation how Flight 93 allegedly crashed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsJ0EFezBW4
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Wally Miller Reports

FBI ends site work, says no bomb used
http://old.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010925scene0925p2.asp

“The FBI said yesterday that it has finished its work at the crash scene of United Flight 93 after recovering about 95 percent of the downed airliner and concluding that explosives were not responsible for bringing it down.

At the same time, the Somerset County coroner said that he has ended his own search for remains of the 44 people aboard the airliner.

“It’s been very thorough,” Coroner Wallace Miller said of the recovery effort.”

“In the meantime, Miller will oversee the task of matching remains with the names of people aboard the jetliner. So far, doctors, dentists and forensic scientists have made 11 matches.”
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Coroner identifies seven more victims of Flight 93 crash
http://old.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010924scenenat5p5.asp

“Seven victims of the Sept. 11 United Airlines Flight 93 crash in Somerset County were positively identified over the weekend, bringing the number of identified bodies to 11.

But Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller said that additional identifications could take months. There were 44 passengers and crew members on the flight.”
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Another 14 victims of Flight 93 identified
http://old.post-gazette.com/headlines/20011027flight931027p5.asp

“It’s all aircraft parts, no human remains,” Miller said. “We’ve collected them in 10 recycling bin-sized containers and eventually we’ll turn them all over to United.”
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Flight 93 victims’ effects to go back to families
http://old.post-gazette.com/headlines/20011230flight931230p3.asp

“”By December 19, the remains of all 40 passengers and crew from Flight 93 have been identified, using fingerprints, dental records, and DNA. Investigators have, by a process of elimination, also been able to isolate genetic profiles of the four hijackers.”
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On Hallowed Ground
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/09/09/1031115990570.html
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=armed_forces_dna_identification_laboratory_1

“Searchers recovered about 510 pounds of human remains at the crash scene, equaling about eight percent of the total bodyweight on the plane. According to Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller, everything else was vaporized.”

‘The interesting thing about this particular case is that I haven’t, to this day, 11 months later, seen any single drop of blood. Not a drop. The only thing I can deduce is that the crash was over in half a second. There was a fireball 15-20 metres high, so all of that material just got vaporised.'”
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Sept. 11 crash still shrouded in mystery
http://web.archive.org/web/20040405170311/http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2004/03/28/398774-cp.html

“The chief coroner who investigated the crash scene recorded a less appealing different image.

“There was, in my conclusion, no way we could ever know who they were that charged that cockpit,” Wallace Miller told students at the B.C. Institute of Technology.

Miller, the director of a family-run funeral home and elected county coroner for Somerset, Pa., said only eight per cent of the wreckage was recovered. Everything else was vaporised, he said.

“We found remains 50 feet deep,” he said of the massive crater the plane left on impact.

The debris field spanned about 2.5 square kilometres of wooded area. Victim recovery efforts were hampered because most of the salvageable human remains were in the treetops.”
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Flight 93 remains yield no evidence
http://old.post-gazette.com/headlines/20011220shanksville1220p2.asp

“The coroner’s assessment came yesterday as he confirmed that the Armed Forces DNA Identification Laboratory has used DNA samples to match recovered remains with the last of 40 crew members and passengers aboard the hijacked jetliner 14 weeks ago when it slammed into a recovered strip mine at around 500 mph.

Miller has kept control of the crash site, under watch by security guards hired by United Airlines, expecting a possible final search for remains in the spring.”
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CHRIS KONICKI (FOX NEWS)

Chris Konicki told a FOX News reporter that “there was nothing that you could distinguish that a plane had crashed there”.

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Interview:
FOX News reporter: It looks like there’s nothing there, except for a hole in the ground.

Photographer Chris Konicki: Ah, basically that’s right. The only thing you can see from where we were, ah, was a big gouge in the earth and some broken trees. We could see some people working, walking around in the area, but from where we could see it, there wasn’t much left.

Reporter: Any large pieces of debris at all?
Konicki: Na, there was nothing, nothing that you could distinguish that a plane had crashed there.
Reporter: Smoke? Fire?
Konicki: Nothing. It was absolutely quite. It was, uh, actually very quiet. Um, nothing going on down there. No smoke. No fire. Just a couple of people walking around. They looked like part of the NTSB crew walking around, looking at the pieces…” – FOX (09/11/01)

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1178249/9_11_flight_93_rare_footage/ (@1:10)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i2DeiNlAWs
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ERNIE STULL (MAYOR)

Shanksville mayor Ernie Stull said there wasn’t much left of the plane after the explosion except for one of the engines lying in the bushes. What engine in the bushes?

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Ernie Stull, mayor of the nearby village of Shanksville recalls

They had been sent here because of a crash but there was no plane?
Ernie Stull: “No. Nothing . Only this hole.”
I thought it was a crash site…
Ernie Stull: “And it is. But there was nothing there to see. The plane had completely disintegrated. Puff. It hit the ground and flew to pieces–completely.”
At the very first, what did you think it could be?
Ernie Stull: “Well…that a plane had crashed. But when we got here, there wasn’t anything.”
What do you mean–there wasn’t anything?
Ernie Stull: “Well…there was no plane. There was what you see a hole. and that is the dirt that the airliner threw out–and the hole, about 6 meters deep…and that was all there was.”
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,265160-5,00.html
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/ar/t9802.htm
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There was no plane,” Ernie Stull, mayor of Shanksville, told German television in March 2003:
“My sister and a good friend of mine were the first ones there,” Stull said. “They were standing on a street corner in Shanksville talking. Their car was nearby, so they were the first here—and the fire department came. Everyone was puzzled, because the call had been that a plane had crashed. But there was no plane.”

“They had been sent here because of a crash, but there was no plane?” the reporter asked.

“No. Nothing. Only this hole.”
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Retraction?

“My statements were taken completely out of context. Of course there was an airplane. It’s just that there wasn’t much left of it after the explosion. That’s what I meant when I said ‘no airplane’. I saw parts of the wreckage with my own eyes, even one of the engines. It was lying in the bushes.” – Ernie Stull
http://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=38850.315;wap2
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SUSAN MCELWAIN

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Susan Mcelwain saw a white plane with two rear engines, a big fin on the back with two upright fins at the side with no markings that looked ‘military’ rocket 40 or 50ft above her mini-van, but hardly made any sound and then heard an explosion then saw a fireball rise up over the trees followed by a white plume of smoke thinking it was the jet that crashed and later the FBI tried to tell her no other plane was around the area then changed their story to say it was a plane taking pictures of the crash 3,000ft up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An_nXpr5K0A (4 Mins Susan McIlwain)

9/11 Shanksville Eyewitness Susan McElwain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gliHOhXYFQ& (10 Mins)
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STEVE O’BRIEN

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“In a rather strange twist, a Lt. Col. Steve O’Brien belatedly came forward to claim that the C-130 that purportedly flew over the Shanksville site after the alleged crash of Flight 93 was, amazingly enough, the very same C-130 that, a half-hour earlier, had been seen flying over the Pentagon at the time of the alleged crash of Flight 77! As O’Brien himself said in an interview (click on video link to the left), “You just wonder how you could be at two places that geographically separate at those exact times and witness both those events.”

According to his interviewer, O’Brien “saw firsthand the end of American Flight 77 and United 93.” So here we have a most remarkable witness: the only man on the planet who claims to have been a witness to two separate events that, if the available evidence is to be believed, never actually happened. Flights 77 and 93 are, as far as I can ascertain, the only two passenger jets in aviation history to crash without leaving behind any visible aircraft wreckage, and Colonel O’Brien, curiously enough, bore witness to the demise of both of these uniquely self-destructing planes. What are the odds of that happening?”
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr87.html
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9/11 PENTAGON ATTACK – WITNESS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9ag6brfWro
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“Cleveland Center air traffic controller Stacey Taylor has asked a nearby C-130 pilot to look at Flight 93’s last position and see if he can find anything. Remarkably, this C-130 pilot, Lt. Col. Steve O’Brien, is the same pilot who was asked by air traffic control to observe Flight 77 as it crashed into the Pentagon earlier on (see 9.36 a.m. September 11, 2001). O’Brien tells Taylor that he saw smoke from the crash shortly after the hijacked plane went down.”
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?day_of_9/11=complete_911_timeline_shanksville__pennsylvania&timeline=complete_911_timeline
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RICK KING

Rick King (Volunteer Firefighter)

“Small fires in the woods, small brush fires.”
“I just looked around and no people, I’m thinking where are all the people?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaBOpA2zMh4
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First Fireman On Scene Of Flight 93 Crash Reflects On 9/11
http://www.digtriad.com/news/article/189949/57/Shanksville-Fireman-A-Day-Ill-Never-Forget

“Rick King, one of the first people on site in Shanksville, PA (site of Flight 93): Assistant Chief of the Shanksville Volunteer Fire Department.

“The crater was there, there was a landing gear tire that was on fire, trees were smoldering, small brush fires, the smell of jet fuel, just small pieces of debris scattered everywhere. Nothing really identifiable you know as far as a plane.

“First off, where was the plane? Where were the people? That was my first thought, We did a search through the woods and didn’t find anything or anybody, at first. I heard a plane, I knew it was an airline, a passenger jet. That was the scary thing for me,” King said.”
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“I get up there and I look around, John, and it was like, I mean it’s like….where’s the plane? You know, I mean there was just small pieces you can pick up in the palm of your hand. Just scattered everywhere.” – Rick King (First Fire Truck at the crash site)

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Then a year or so later Rick King totally retracts his first hand accounts with this:

“I’ll never forget that scene, I’ll never forget the smell of the Jet Fuel, I’ll never forget the feeling of helplessness.”

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBU4aZZOWk4
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OTHER WITNESSES

Shanksville, Pennsylvania, on 9/11: The Mysterious Plane Crash Site Without a Plane
http://shoestring911.blogspot.ca/2013/02/shanksville-pennsylvania-on-911.html

“I was looking for anything that said tail, wing, plane, metal.
There was nothing.”
– Photographer Scott Spangler [2]

“I was amazed because it did not, in any way, shape, or form,
look like a plane crash.”
– Patrick Madigan, commander of the Somerset
barracks of the Pennsylvania State Police [3
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Homer Barron said it didn’t look like a plane crash because there was nothing that looked like a plane.I never seen anything like it. Just a big pile of ‘charcoal’. 9/12/01
http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010912somerscenenat4p3.asp
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Nina Lensbouer :
“My instinct was to run toward it, to try to help. But I got there and there was nothing, nothing there but charcoal. Instantly, it was charcoal.” post-gazette.com (09/12/01)
http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010912somerscenenat4p3.asp
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Mark Stahl:
“There’s a crater gouged in the earth, the plane is pretty much disintegrated. There’s nothing left but scorched trees,”
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/911.call/
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Maj. Lyle Szupinka (State Police) :
“The best I can describe it is if you’ve ever been to a commercial landfill. When it’s covered and you have papers flying around. You have papers blowing around and bits and pieces of shredded metal. That’s probably about the best way to describe that scene itself.” – Pittsburgh Live (09/14/01)
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_12969.html
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Jim Brandt said that he saw another plane in the area and said it stayed there for one or two minutes before leaving.
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/957912/detail.html
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Dale Browning said everybody saw this plane in the sky, but no one can tell them what it was.
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Rick Chaney described the plane as a Lear-jet type, with engines mounted near the tail and painted white with no identifying markings.
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Susan Custer said she saw a small white jet streaking overhead.
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Tom Spinelli saw a white plane with high back wings flying around all over the place before and after the crash like it was looking for something.
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/957912/detail.html
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Capt. Frank Monaco, state police – “If you would go down there, it would look like a trash heap,” said state police Capt. Frank Monaco. “There’s nothing but tiny pieces of debris. It’s just littered with small pieces.” – Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (09/12/01)
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John Fleegle (Manager Indian Lake Marina)

Flight 93 Eyewitness Sees A Second Plane, Says Flight 93 Was Shot Down (John Fleegle)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=LWcdSyyppHI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMNH8-yeS_0&

While telling his eyewitness story, a retired Air Force officer explains that the reason his lights flickered was because the radar frequency was zapped as the plane was shot down.
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Three Shanksville High students see a fighter plane fly from the alleged Flight 93 crash scene seconds after the explosion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_y2Y3jtzv0
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BANNED FROM CNN Flight 93 eyewitness admits not seeing dead bodies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It5JC45KMGo&
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New Footage Minutes after Flight 93 Crashed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u90-qv_CpQ&
What this man is describing is not what I am seeing!!!! Why release this now?
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CNN – Flight 93 “nearly vaporized”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwJ8to1IqIA
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“Investigators also are combing a second crime scene in nearby Indian Lake, where residents reported hearing the doomed jetliner flying over at a low altitude before “falling apart on their homes.”

“People were calling in and reporting pieces of plane falling,” a state trooper said. Jim Stop reported he had seen the hijacked Boeing 757 fly over him as he was fishing. He said he could see parts falling from the plane.” [pittsburghlive.com]
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“The crater starts to take shape higher on the hill. The crater with crash debris as far as eighty feet deep in the landfill. A ridge blocked most of the crater from view as the people in suits walked aimlessly around the site pausing to look at items on the ground. A few trailers from the various investigative agencies lined an access road on the edge of the landfill. No survivors, just debris and a large crater. No engines. No fuselage. “Nothing larger than a phone book”.
Tim Shaffer
5-15-02”
http://amhistory.si.edu/september11/collection/supporting.asp?ID=44&z=0
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FLIGHT 93 WITNESS STATES THERE WERE NO BODIES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaBOpA2zMh4&
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Flight 93 Witnesses:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUzrHHDu96U (4 Mins)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd3heMLlEVc (4 Mins Nevin)
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911 ~ The Shanksville Hole
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_obxg9bWPY
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Flight 93 – Witnesses – A Closer Look {B}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en9eGEOpD9Q&
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Text of Flight 93 Recording (Fox source)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,191520,00.html
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September 11, 9/11 Pentagon Truth + Flight 93 Pictures and Radio Transmission
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae63iivRHt8
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INVESTIGATORS FOUND NO JET FUEL IN THE GROUND

“The Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) began taking samples of soil and well water from around the site about a week after 9/11, to see if they had been contaminated by Flight 93’s fuel or other toxic materials. [33] Flight 93 was estimated to have been carrying about 7,000 gallons of fuel, weighing about 37,500 pounds, when it crashed. [34] But David Bomba, a DEP hydrogeologist, told local residents that the first samples of soil and water to be tested had been found to be clean. [35] And a couple of weeks later, at the beginning of October 2001, the DEP reported that “no contamination” had been discovered. [36] DEP spokeswoman Betsy Mallison said that, “whether it burned away or evaporated, much of [the plane’s fuel] seems to have dissipated.” [37]”

“Three groundwater monitoring wells show no evidence of groundwater contamination and nearly 6,000 cubic yards of dirt sifted for human remains and aircraft debris will soon be returned to the crater left Sept. 11 by United Airlines Flight 93.”

http://html.thepittsburghchannel.com/pit/news/stories/news-100064120011002-151006.html
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VAL MCCLATCHERY (FAKE?)

The infamous Val McClatchey “Flight 93” Shot! Fake or Not Fake?

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Val McClatchey heard what she thought was a small plane roar over Indian Lake headed east towards the crash scene which is the opposite direction officials said Flight 93 flew in and caught a glimpse of it when she looked out her front window.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_90823.html
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“Jeff: Val McClatchey… she has a famous photo.
Ms. Leverknight: It was a fake photo, because it didn’t have a mushroom cloud.
Jeff: So it was a fake photo?
Ms. Leverknight: Yeah.”
http://flight93photo.blogspot.ca/
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Jeff calls Photo Artist Val McClatchey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFwmupyyw6w
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Conspiracy theorists blog that Flight 93 photo is fake
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/uncategorized/conspiracy-theorists-blog-that-flight-93-photo-is-fake-445090/
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9/11 – Flight 93 – Where Is The Plane – Fake Photo Vindicated By Suspicious Unreleased Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBU4aZZOWk4

“The sun reflecting off the metal and then the explosion. It was so forceful that it almost knocked me off my sofa. I jumped and grabbed my camera and went out to the front deck and saw the smoke rising over the hill.” – Val McClatchery

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New Footage Minutes after Flight 93 Crashed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u90-qv_CpQ&

Could Val’s shot be several minutes before this video was taken. However, what this man is describing is not what I am seeing!

CONCLUSION: DISINFO?
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WITNESS REVIEW

Here is what I couldn’t find:

witnesses who saw an upside down 757.
witnesses who saw a nose diving 757.
witnesses who saw a smoking 757.
witnesses who saw a missile.

Here is what I did find:

witnesses to a plane approaching the ‘crash site’.
witnesses in indian lake who saw or heard a 757 fly over before an explosion took place.
witnesses to a small white military drone approach the crash site before the explosion.
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