Before we get into the 9/11 Shills. Let’s first define the terms.
A Shill is an associate of a person selling goods or services or a political group, who pretends no association to the seller/group and assumes the air of an enthusiastic customer. The intention of the shill is, using crowd psychology, to encourage others unaware of the set-up to purchase said goods or services or support the political group’s ideological claims. Shills are often employed by confidence artists. The term plant or debunker is also used.
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
A Gatekeeper is a person who controls access to something, for example via a city gate. In the late 20th century the term came into metaphorical use, referring to individuals who decide whether a given message will be distributed by a mass medium. Gatekeeping is the process through which information is filtered for dissemination, be it publication, broadcasting, the Internet, or some other type of communication.
Sock Puppets are people – or software programs – who are paid by governments to spread pro-government propaganda primarily in social media platforms. They can have up to ten different personas, each with its own believable profile, and are distinguishable from random internet trolls and mistaken people and outright idiots and fools, by the fact that they are actually appointed and paid by governments.
The Limited Hangout tactic is a form of propaganda that is used to reduce backlash against an immoral or would-be illegal act (usually considered a cover-up), by making it seem like the perpetrators have come clean about their role, while still keeping important details hidden. By releasing information that was previously secret or not yet acknowledged, backlash is reduced because some people will believe the cover-up has been fully exposed and admitted to.
9/11 SHILLS / DEBUNKERS
Listed on this page are a list of the top Debunking sites and debunkers I have come across. I spent 6 years on Facebook debating these people until I realized it was a waste of time.
TOP DEBUNKING SITES
9/11 MYTHS (MIKE WILLIAMS)
10 years on: An interview with Mike Williams, founder of 911myths.com which rebuts the claims of 9/11 conspiracy theorists
“Mike Williams is a 9/11 conspiracy theory – someone who rebuts, or ‘debunks’ the claims of 9/11 conspiracy theorists. He started the website 911myths.com in 2005, which allows the visitor to “…look into the claims yourself, discover both sides of the argument, and make your own mind up. I have no grand aims. I was simply amazed at how many apparently definitive 9/11-related claims crumbled when you looked at them, and wanted to share that”.”
Interview with Mike Williams of 9/11 Myths
911 Myths really doesn’t debunk anything. They strawman the weakest of claims with a one sentence rebuttal that lacks logic.
Five Stupid Things About the 9/11 Truth Movement
1) “It’s pretentions to legitimacy”
It Steve Shives says there is no “legitimacy” among respected experts, then certainly he should have no issues with a new investigation among these peers.
Compared to “everyone else in the world” the number of “experts” on record as agreeing with the 9/11 truth movement seem less than impressive, sure. However when compared to “everyone else in the world” the number of “experts” who are on record agreeing with this debunkers version of events are next to non existent. Let’s not pretend that having no recorded opinion either way equates to a default agreement with him. So just how many Engineers and Architects are out there that disagree with our theories about the Towers collapse? I would like to see such a list.
2) “Calls for Investigations that have already been conducted”
Wrong, 9/11 has not been fully investigated by the people that did it. This is why we are still demanding a new investigation. Bush and Cheney never wanted 9/11 investigated, they refused to testify under oath in front of the media. The 9/11 Commission has admitted that it was “set up to fail”. Reports of explosions and Molten Steel were never investigated. So when Steve Shives says “9/11 is already the most investigated event in the history of investigated events.” he is lying to himself.
I don’t think the 911 truth movement has ever had a problem with the “number” of investigations there have been. The problem is with the “types” of investigations there have been. In all of this “most investigated event in the history of investigated events” they have apparently never found the time to add a fair and transparent “criminal” investigation in there ANYWHERE (Perhaps they were short on cash?). One whose sole evidence doesn’t come from a “secret witness” who was tortured relentlessly first. One preferably that IS there to “name names and assign blame”.
3) “The obsession with Building 7”
He doesn’t answer a single thing about Building 7, he only asks more questions
about it in a mocking way.
I’m more annoyed with the governments obsession with throwing “9/11” in our faces every time they get caught doing something wrong.
4) The “controlled demolition” bullshit
Well Steve, we all know that the Towers were built to withstand the impact of MULTIPLE Boeing airliners. Unless he feels like debunking the engineers that built it. Buildings do not collapse in on themselves from office fires, never have, never will. But in Steve’s deluded brain, he still cannot see what a top down controlled demolition is (like the towers) and Building 7 DID start from the bottom. Steve is right, the Towers did not collapse into their own footprint, they were blown up spreading debris over a 600′ radius. Please Steve tell us how Gravity did that?
5) It doesn’t tell us what “really” happened.
There is no evidence that hijackers hijacked anything that day Steve. You see, we don’t know exactly what happened, which is why we are demanding a new investigation looking at ALL the evidence, not just the cherry picked information that can’t be backed up with factual evidence. The Truth Movement has been asking questions for the last 14 years, many of which have not been answered. So Steve, instead of telling us to tell you exactly what happened, how about you answer the questions that have been ignored or not fully explained. Would you?
The 911 commission report has been proven to be part of a “big ol 911 cover up” just like when the EPA covered up the fact that they knew the air wasn’t safe to breathe.
Steve Shives cannot handle the truth about 9/11. So instead of debunking our views and theories (backed by science) he trolls the movement with personal attacks. Typical debunker tactics because science and physics is to hard to deal with.
Five More Stupid Things About the 9/11 Truth Movement
Seriously, the Hell With 9/11 Truthers
His name is Steve Shives and he has a shitload of videos.
5 stupid things about Steve Shives:
1. that hat
2. that website
3. that brain
4. that hatred
5. that supremacist attitude
CONCLUSION: He doesn’t debunk anything, just makes stupid arguments and calls people names.
TORONTO 9/11 TRUTH Michael Coren interviews Richard Gage
See footage that Michael Coren (Sun Media) edited out of his hit piece on Richard Gage!
Here was the Hit piece:
COREN VS. THE TRUTHERS
MARK “GRAVY” ROBERTS
Links for 9/11 Research
Compiled by, and including original research and analysis from, Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts: 9/11 “Debunker” or just Dishonest?
9/11 Richard Gage (AIA) Schools Mark Roberts (TourGuide)
Journal of Debunking 911 Conspiracy Theories, Volume 1, Issue 4
PENN AND TELLER
Penn & Teller – 9/11 Conspiracy Theories
Conpiracy Theories Are Bullshit – Penn & Teller
CONSPIRACY THEORIES on Penn & Teller: Bullshit – Penn Point
Mythbusters Adam Savage Talks About “Busting” 9/11 Conspiracies
“It’s been on our list for a long time.”
Adam Savage From Mythbusters Interviewed by reddit.com – Part 1 of 3
New Mythbusters 9/11 episode: Stew’s Conspiracy Funhouse
Mythbusters – Thermite Vs. Ice
CONCLUSION: Mythbusters won’t touch 9/11 truth theories and put them to the test. I wonder why?
“My Boyfriend is a Conspiracy Theorist”
“Oh, honey. Today, it’s babbling about 9/11 conspiracy theories and the New World Order today, and tomorrow your boyfriend will be writing on his bedroom wall, claiming to be the “true prophet of Jehovah.” Unless he gets mental help, this can’t end well………..”
“I’m sure you care for your boyfriend — you’ve been together for a year and a half, after all — so do him a favor and reach out to his family if you haven’t already. Let them know what’s been going on and that you’re concerned for his mental and emotional well-being. For all you know, this sort of thing may run in his family and they may have insight that can help you put things in perspective and make some sense out of what’s been happening. ”
“As for you and your well-being, you may want to start researching the connection between conspiracy theorists and mental health, as well as pay a visit to your campus counseling/wellness center. If you decide to stay with your boyfriend, you will likely face stresses and pressures you are inexperienced and unfamiliar with and it will behoove you to have a professional help you process some of your own emotions surrounding your boyfriend’s behavior and your potential mixed feelings toward him and your relationship. Good luck.”
So who is this Dear Wendy?
Wendy Atterberry, Andrew Condell
“Wendy K. Atterberry and Andrew G. Condell were married Friday in the Central Park Conservatory Garden in New York. Rabbi Joel S. Goor officiated, with Cantor Ephraim Biran taking part.”
Makes a little more sense now…..
“I’m Jewish, He’s Catholic. Can We Make It Work?”
“DearWendy.com, launched in January 2011 and updated daily, is a place for people to pose questions about the relationship issues in their lives and get the kind of advice and feedback their best friend is probably too skeerd to give them. (You can read the site’s most popular posts here). DearWendy.com is inspired by the column of the same name, which became popular on TheFrisky.com, a lady-centric site originally owned and operated by Turner Media. The column has been featured regularly on CNN.com, and quoted and excerpted in places like “The Washington Post” and NPR.org. DearWendy.com is run by Wendy Atterberry who lives in Brooklyn, New York with her husband, Drew, their baby boy, Jackson, and their two cats, Simone and Miles.”
I’ve tried to leave several comments on this article but “Dear Wendy” refuses to add them in the comments section.
SIX REALLY STUPID 9/11 CONSPIRACY THEORIES
Six really stupid 9/11 conspiracies debunked in about six seconds
“STUPID THEORY 1: The US government did it.”
The USG has been involved in several False Flag events, Check them out here. Eg – Gulf on Tonkin, Operation Northwoods, OKC Bombing, JFK, etc.
“STUPID THEORY 2: The twin towers did not collapse. They were demolished.”
Collapsing means to come down, the Towers exploded from the inside with such force that heavy steel columns were ejected laterally through the air and landing upto 600 feet away. Gravity can not accomplish this alone.
“STUPID THEORY 3: World Trade Center 7 did not collapse. It was demolished.”
Building 7 imploded into it’s own footprint in under 7 seconds. 2.25 seconds were at free fall acceleration, which means all support columns gave way at precisely the same time. Something that “normal office fires” can never accomplish.
“STUPID THEORY 4: FLIGHT 93 was shot down in Pennsylvania and the people who were supposedly on it were murdered or relocated.”
Looking at video footage of the hole in Shanksville and going by the testimony of first responders, there does not appear to be a Boeing 757 anywhere near the hole. Unless you think the ground opened up and ate the plane.
“STUPID THEORY 5: There was no “stand down” order, which proves the US government dunnit.”
NORAD did stand down for over 90 minutes while 4 planes flew off course. The person in charge was Cheney from the “bunker” under the White House. Norman Mineta testified that the “orders still stand” and Cheney has never clearly explained what those orders were. More information here:
“STUPID THEORY 6: They weren’t planes, they were missiles.”
People that believe there were no planes are either Govt agents injecting disinformation into the movement to discredit the hard facts or they are useful idiots that have no idea what they are talking about. The No Plane theory was debunked years ago.
Glenn Edward Lee Beck (born February 10, 1964) is an American conservative radio host, vlogger, author, entrepreneur, political commentator and former television host. He hosts the Glenn Beck Program, a nationally syndicated talk-radio show that airs throughout the United States on Premiere Radio Networks. He formerly hosted the Glenn Beck television program, which ran from January 2006 to October 2008 on HLN and from January 2009 to June 2011 on the Fox News Channel.
Glenn Beck: “I hate 9/11 victims families for asking questions”
Glenn Beck Goes Nuts at Caller on 9/11
Glenn Beck slanders 911 Truth, links to Holocaust Museum Shooter
This is what Glenn Beck is screaming about.
Glenn Beck Mentions FEMA Camps on Fox & Friends
“Continuing his assigned role as corporate media siren of the apocalypse, Glenn Beck interrupted a discussion on Russia and Iran last night on Fox & Friends to mention a heretofore no-no for national television — FEMA camps. At two minutes into the video below, Beck declares he attempted to “debunk these FEMAS camps” because he is “tired of hearing about them,” but was unable to do so. “We now for several days have done research on them… I can’t debunk them.” Beck follows this with a declaration that the United States may be headed for totalitarianism.”
I will admit, I do not agree with Glenn Beck on many things! This is the same guy that called for “Martial law” on FOX! The same guy who said to stick all truthers in concentration camps.
Glenn Beck attempts to debunk FEMA Camps with James Meigs Part 1
Glenn Beck’s Secret to Fake Tears!
Glenn Beck – The Crying Game
Glenn Beck Gets Owned By RT Anchorwoman
Geraldo Rivera, Judge Napolitano… and now Glenn Beck?
CONCLUSION: RIGHT WING TALKING HEAD. 9/11 GATEKEEPER.
DR MICHIO KAKU
Michio Kaku (born January 24, 1947) is an American theoretical physicist, the Henry Semat Professor of Theoretical Physics at the City College of New York, a futurist, and a communicator and popularizer of science……..Kaku has hosted several TV specials for the BBC, the Discovery Channel, the History Channel, and the Science Channel.”
Dr. Michio Kaku
Why Michio Kaku Has Lost His Credibility as a Physicist
“Controlled Demolitions are done from the bottom.You put dynamite on the bottom of the building, not the top. You’d have to be an idiot to put dynamite on top of the building and have it implode.” – Dr Kaku
Then I guess these controlled demolition experts are “idiots”?
Footage of a building blowing up in China
Top Down Demolition
Twin skyscrapers blown up in Chongqing Port, China
Building Implosion Controlled Demolition World Trade Center 7- 911
“Well duh, everbody knows that fire does not melt steel. However, it weakens steel, softens it, so that the softening of steel will buckle under pressure….. it has nothing to do with melted steel, it has to do with buckling steel.” – Dr Kaku
Dr Kaku is ignoring all the reports of Molten Steel.
9/11 MOLTEN STEEL
The first three minutes is all you need to hear….
@1:30. Demolitions go up like his hand gesture
@3:00 “It’s pretty clear that Terrorism brought them down.”
@4:30 Building 7 fell at Free fall speed…. “you’re correct”. Then goes on about the towers and softening of steel. Denies Molten steel.
Michio Kaku is Confronted on Explosives Found in 911 WTC dust
CONCLUSION: Dr Kaku has sold out physics to keep his cozy gig.
2.3 Trillion Missing From Pentagon Announced by Donald Rumsfeld DEBUNKED
Dan Stevens – dsglop (9/11 Truth Debunker)
His name is Dan Stevens and he likes to draw basic diagrams which don’t explain anything. He also likes to call 9/11 truthers “pussy bitches”
11 Crazy 9-11 Conspiracy Theories Debunked
11 More Crazy 9-11 Conspiracy Theories Debunked (Part 2)
Debunking Myths on Conspiracy Theories
“Article written by Gatecreepers.” Nuff said!
9/11 wasn’t an inside job
(Kid has to destroy his tower with his hands @1:25)
I see a future for this kid in politics. lol
A debunker (Luigi) posted this on this page.
“Government: We want to cause a tragedy so great the American people will blindly follow us into war… What do you think gentlemen…
Accomplice #1: Well, the Towers are a perfect choice.. It’s been bombed before. We can just blame Osama again. We’ve been priming the American people by having him blow up our warships and our buildings in other countries.
Government: Yeah, good idea! How will we do that?
Accomplice #1: We can hire Osama to get some of his friends to fly planes into it!
Accomplice #2: Wait… I have a better idea, We can BOMB the buildings!
Accomplice #1: Well, that means placing enough bombs into two 110 story buildings. That’s going to take a lot of man power and risk us being uncovered…
Accomplice #2: Yeah, but that way, you’re sure to knock them down. Besides, maybe the hijackers won’t make it to the target. Maybe they’ll be uncovered!
Accomplice #1: But you don’t need to knock them down, all you need is the horrific sight of the planes hitting the buildings. People will get the message. It’s an attack on American soil. We’ll also have people like the blind sheik to cover for us. We’ll even put a guy on a train with evidence.
Your plan isn’t perfect either, you know. Do I have to remind you of Operation Towel Pop? We already tried to embarrass Clinton by knocking it down and failed.
Accomplice #2: Yeah, our Bay of Pigs, but I say the only way they can get the message is if we knock them down.
Accomplice #1: Do not
Accomplice #2: Do too
Accomplice #1: Do not
Accomplice #2: Do too
Accomplice #1: Do not
Accomplice #2: Do too
Government: Gentlemen, gentlemen… Please… What the hell, we’ll just do both! :blink: How do we do that? I mean, how do you keep explosions from showing up on TV? We’re going to have to investigate this at some point. How do we cover up the scene?
Accomplice #2: But why not just knock it dow…
Government: I’ve made my decision. Continue…
Accomplice #2: OK.. We install charges on every floor so that after the planes hit, we blow each floor under the crash floor one by one, very fast to simulate pancaking. We’ll let the building burn a while just for effect. This will also give time for the trusses to sag making it LOOK like a fire caused the building to fall.
Accomplice #1: Nice touch…
Accomplice #2: Why, thank you. …We’ll set a charge off in the middle of the building AFTER the top is on its way down so everyone thinks the puffs of debris coming from the windows are from the tremendous hypodermic needle like pressure blowing debris from the weakest point in the building.
Government: What about the sound of explosions? Isn’t that a dead giveaway?
Accomplice #2: No problem, We’ll just let them think it’s normal electrical explosions like transformers blowing up or the initial concrete and steel and floors hitting the floors below.
Accomplice #1: Yeah, it could also be the steel columns snapping like twigs from the tremendous weight of the floors above… Don’t worry, we have disinformation specialists in key internet forums.
Government: WOW, You guys think of everything.. What about Building 7? Can we take that out at the same time?
Accomplice #1: We won’t be able to fly planes into it, that’s for sure…
Accomplice #2: Leave it to me. If we set off the explosions just right, we can have one of the towers hit Building 7, missing the two next to it. After that, we can set fires on the bottom floors and let it burn for a while, you know, to make it look possible for a normal collapse. I’ll call my agent in the fire department to get everyone out before we blow it. I’ll figure a way to make the floors look buckled for effect as well.
Government: Amazing … I also want to take out the Pentagon. Any suggestions?
Accomplice #1: What we’ll do is hijack a plane just for effect, then fire a missile at the Pentagon. A bunker buster.
Government: But what about the people on the plane?
Accomplice #1: We’ll land the plane in area 51, then shoot them all.
Government: Why not use the plane instead of the missile? That way, you take care of all the evidence at the same time… People on the highway can also see the planes hit. If you use a missile, there’s going to be a lot of witnesses who saw a missile and not a plane.
Accomplice #1: Err… ah, don’t worry about these small details. I have an undercover op in the DC police department who will take the names down and shot them all.
Government: How are you going to get all the people involved in this? Bush isn’t exactly loved you know..
Accomplice #1: Don’t worry, psych-ops will take care of the brainwashing of the American people. As for the media, we control the left and the right!
Government: GREAT! Nice work all! Let’s make the target date Sept 11, 2001.”
What a mockery coming from this debunker.
CNN on Jews Did 9/11
Michael Chertoff compares 9/11 Truth to Holocaust denial
HOW CONSPIRACY THEORIES POSE A NATIONAL SECURITY RISK
Watch after 33:00
“Why they needed to knock down building 7, I don’t know..Umm.. Seemed like the first two did enough.”
“You don’t need to knock down buildings to start a war.”
– Kurt Eichenwald (Newsweek Senior Writer)
The New York Times’ Juicy, Scoop-Filled 9/11 Op-Ed Is Neither Juicy Nor Full of Scoops
“Kurt Eichenwald, the disgraced former New York Times reporter whose career went up in flames after he got caught secretly paying thousands of dollars to a child pornographer he wrote about, is on the comeback trail.”
The Deafness Before the Storm
Pizza Hut Conspiracy Video – How Youtube Shills Succeeded in Demonizing Truthers!
PIZZA HUT’S ILLUMINATI COMMERCIAL EXPOSED!
Pizza Hut Commercial 2016 Conspiracy Theorist
New Pizza Hut Psyop Commercial Mocks “Conspiracy Theorist” – Are Ruling Elite Panicking? (VIDEO)
“A recent Pizza Hut commercial curiously presents a strange looking man posing as a “conspiracy theorist” claiming (get this) that he knows for a fact that “the moon landing was faked … two, the moon is also fake” and “three, this deal has Illuminati written all over it“”
FACEBOOK SHILL/DEBUNKER GROUPS
9/11 Truthers are Crazy
9/11 conspiracy theories are BS
9/11 Conspiracy Theories are an Inside Job!
~FUCK The 9/11 Truth Movement~
Keoki George (Ron Wieck)
Bill Le Chard
David F. Kyte
Robert W. Struble
SHILL GROUP THREADS
9/11 conspiracy theories are BS (THREADS)
9/11 Truthers are Crazy (Threads)