The Engine at Church and Murray

When the second plane impacted the South tower, one of the engines was ejected out the other side and ended up resting at the corner of Church and Murray next to a light post and some scaffolding.

Until we can positively match this engine up to United Flight 175 (Boeing 767), it is inconclusive that it was Flight 175. There are many researchers in this movement that believe military drones hit the towers and not the original flights. Identifying this engine will put this theory to test or rest.


Is it a Pratt and Whitney or a Rolls Royce Engine? Is it from a CFM56 or JT9D?




Here are some of the best video’s I have found regarding the Engine found at Church and Murray.

9/11 Engine

9/11 Engine Before Collapses

News coverage at Church and Murray – 9/11 (FOX News)
Plane part on Murray Street (ABC, 9/11)

9/11 Engine – Church And Murray (ABC 1145 AM)
9/11 Engine – Is This A Part Of One Of The Planes? Ann Curry (NBC 9/12)
Flight 175 Engine
NIST FOIA: WABC Dub1 Clips 127-131 (Engine Parts from UA175) (Old Version)
9/11 FBI Photographs Plane Engine At WTC


9/11 Engine Did Not Structurally Damage Any Columns As It Exited Building NIST

NIST WTC Engine Impact Simulation (WTC Investigation4)
Aidan Monaghan (FOIA)


9/11 Planted Street Signs At The Engine Spot

FBI agent “Woah, what you doing, don’t be kicking stuff over, this is evidence. You don’t kick it. Just get out of here. This is evidence and you’re kicking stuff, what’s the matter with you?”


NIST FOIA: Kevin Segalla Clip 23 (Portion of an Engine From Flight 175, Murray and Church Street)
NIST WTC Website: 491-WTCI-430-I (Kevin Segalla Tape, Enhanced Audio)

@6:00 He’s at Church and Warren. One block North of Murray. Debris in street. He walks down to Murray to film the engine and the damage to the top of the building.


9/11 Engine Location – Murray And One Way Sign Height And WTC Distance Reference

Church and Murray Revisited Revised

NOTE: Watch out for fraud videos uploaded by CNN911Fakes. He’s a no planer and is most likely Simon Shacks account.



The Legend of 9/11 — 10 Years On

At the 3:00 mark of this video, Anthony Lawson claims that a part on this engine does not belong to a 767.
Wrong Engine, Wrong Place
Church & Murray Street Engine IDENTIFIED!
Jon Carlson: 9/11 Engine found on Murray St is a 737 and not a 767 engine

“Nila Sagadevin, a seasoned airline pilot of over 20 years, examined photos of the engine that was found at the Trade Center site. He stated, “The engine found at the Trade Center was a CFM-56, which is not utilized on a Boeing 767″, confirming that the south tower was not hit by flight 175, but by another plane that had taken its place.”
WTC Engine Not Flight 175’s – 9/11 Facts
Let’s cover that Murray Street engine one more time
The Rest Of The 911 Street Engine Story
THEY LIED!! Drone 767 9/11? Remote Controlled! Must See!!

“The engine found at WTC is NOT from the planes that WE were TOLD hit it! They used modified/military 767s. With these, come more powerful engines. Like the General Electric CF6-series. The already strengthend Cargo and AWACs military, or E-767 (there are alt. theories here, evidence shows the poss. of “modified 767 to KC767s”, as well). Add other hi-priority mod’s, to critical stress points, flight control surfaces, a painfully obvious asymmetric, aerodynamic cover! (for a high-tech R/C FTS, or Flight Terrmination System, antenna on one side of the belly?)”


This is the SAME Engine found at Church and Murray.


“767 engine at Fresh Kills”
It’s a match

same engine

This engine is the same one on display at the Museum. They restored it a bit and they removed some of the piping around the shell.

engine freshkills—————
It’s a match.

“NEW YORK, UNITED STATES: The torso of a bronze statue by French sculptor Auguste Rodin sits next to a plane engine and other debris recovered from the World Trade Center site which is stored at the Fresh Kills Landfill in New York 14 January, 2002. Work to clear the ruins of the WTC is due to be completed several months ahead of schedule, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said. Earlier, analysts had said it would take some nine months to a year to clear the area where the towers collapsed after being struck by two passenger planes piloted by suicide terrorists 11 September, 2001. AFP PHOTO Don EMMERT (Photo credit should read DON EMMERT/AFP/Getty Images)”

“Engine part after being removed to Fresh Kills”


“Airplane engine parts from United Airlines Flight 175, which hit the World Trade Center’s South Tower. Loan, FBI Tour. Newseum, Washington D.C., USA.”

Memorial Engine




Engine parts of flight 175

“Airplane engine parts from Flight 175.

Airplane engine parts from United Airlines Flight 175, which hit the World Trade Center’s South Tower. Loan, FBI Tour. Newseum, Washington D.C., USA.”
“Debris: Large chunks of engine from United Flight 175 (left) were found blocks from Ground Zero and a 31-foot piece of the North Tower’s broadcast antennae (right) were displayed at Washington DC’s Newseum until 2012”
D.C. museum 1st to show FBI evidence from 9/11

“Among 60 new artifacts on view are engines and landing gear from passenger planes that crashed into the World Trade Center…”

“Jet engines found blocks away from the World Trade Center hang as a stark reminder of the planes used as weapons to kill nearly 3,000 people.”
Newseum exhibit ‘War on Terror: The FBI’s New Focus’ includes artifacts from 9/11

“Engine parts from Flight 175, which crashed into the World Trade Center’s North Tower at 8:46 a.m. on Sept. 11, 2001. (Sarah Mercier/Newseum)”

“Fragments of the engines of United Flight 175 recall the power of the terrorists’ weapons. One engine part is 1,500 pounds, the other 800 pounds. Found just blocks from the World Trade Center towers and on loan from the FBI, the engine parts will be suspended from the ceiling.”
The FBI Since 9/11
D.C. Museum Updates Popular Exhibit

“Other artifacts are large, chilling reminders of the 9/11 attack’s deadly destruction, including two pieces of the airplane engines—one weighing some 1,500 pounds—that crashed into the World Trade Center towers and were recovered blocks from Ground Zero.”


Where were these Engine(s) found at GZ?
Are these two different engines or two parts to the same engine?
Where are the photo’s of this engine(s) at GZ?
How many Engines were found and recovered at GZ?


“The two objects showing incredible inertia are seen in this photo. Note the difference in their oxide trails. The white-hot object leaving the black oxides is probably the depleted uranium penetrator while the object leaving the white trail is probably the engine and fuel that propelled the missile.”


Engine to a Boeing 767-200

Pratt & Whitney JT9D weighs roughly 9000 lbs.

“JT9D-7R4D/D1 48,000 lbf (213.51 kN) 8,905 lb (4,039 kg) 132.7 in (3,370 mm) 93.4 in (2,370 mm) Boeing 767/Airbus A310”

767-200 engine JT9DJT9D
“JT9D Model History

Pratt &Whitney’s JT9D high-bypass ratio engine was first produced in 1970 to power the newer wide-body aircraft entering service with the airline industry. This engine series introduced many innovations in structural and material design technologies and made advancements in aerodynamics that improved fuel efficiency and engine reliability.

With later models having the capacity to generate up to 56,000 pounds of thrust, the JT9D series has a proven service record as the workhorse for early variants of the Boeing 747 throughout the 1970’s (3A – 7Q), and then a model was introduced (7R4D) for the Boeing 767 in 1982.

Another model (59A) was introduced in 1984 to power the Airbus A300 and A310, and a final model (20J) was produced in 1987 to power the McDonell Douglas DC-10.

Production of this model ended in 1990, the same year it reached 100 million flight hours.”

“SUMMARY: This amendment adopts a new airworthiness directive (AD) that is applicable to certain Pratt & Whitney (PW) JT9D series turbofan engines. This amendment requires initial and repetitive detailed eddy current inspections for cracks in 1st stage high pressure turbine (HPT) disks, and, if necessary, replacement with serviceable parts. This amendment is prompted by the discovery of a crack in the web of one cooling air hole on a 1st stage HPT disk. The actions specified by this AD are intended to prevent 1st stage HPT disk cracking, which could result in an uncontained engine failure and damage to the aircraft.

DATES: Effective May 7, 2001. The incorporation by reference of certain publications listed in the regulations is approved by the Director of the Federal Register as of May 7, 2001.

2001-04-11 Pratt & Whitney: Amendment 39-12130. Docket No. 99-NE-56-AD.

Applicability: Pratt & Whitney (PW) JT9D-7R4D, -7R4D1, -7R4E, -7R4E1 (AI-500), -7, -7A, -7AH, -7H, -7F, and -20 series turbofan engines, installed on but not limited to Boeing 747 and 767 series, McDonnell Douglas DC-10 series, and Airbus Industrie A310 series aircraft.”
“The Pratt & Whitney JT9D high-bypass turbofan engine was developed for the 747.”

“JT9D-7” – 747
“JT9D-7R4G2” – 747
“JT9D-7R4D/D1” – 767


“The Pratt & Whitney JT9D high-bypass turbofan engine was developed for the 747.”

“JT9D-7” – 747
“JT9D-7R4G2” – 747
“JT9D-7R4D/D1” – 767
“The 767 is produced in three fuselage lengths. The original 767-200 entered service in 1982, followed by the 767-300 in 1986 and the 767-400ER, an extended-range (ER) variant, in 2000. The extended-range 767-200ER and 767-300ER models entered service in 1984 and 1988, respectively, while a production freighter version, the 767-300F, debuted in 1995. Conversion programs have modified passenger 767-200 and 767-300 series aircraft for cargo use, while military derivatives include the E-767 surveillance aircraft, the KC-767 and KC-46 aerial tankers, and VIP transports. Engines featured on the 767 include the General Electric CF6, Pratt & Whitney JT9D and PW4000, and Rolls-Royce RB211 turbofans.”
JT9D Engine

“The JT9D engine family consists of three distinct series. The JT9D-7 engine covers the 46,300- to 50,000-pound-thrust range, and the JT9D-7Q series has a 53,000 pound thrust rating. Later models, the -7R4 series, cover the 48,000- to 56,000-pound-thrust range. For JT9D-7R4 twinjet installations, the engines are approved for 180-minute ETOPS (Extended-range Twin-engine Operations). ”

“Since entering service on the Boeing 747 aircraft in 1970, the JT9D engine has proven itself to be the workhorse for early 747, 767, A300, A310 and DC-10 aircraft models with more than 3,200 cumulative engines delivered”


WTC Engine Not Flight 175’s – 9/11 Facts




Did the engine that was found at Church and Murray belong to United flight 175 (Boeing 767)?

1) Is this the same engine recovered from Church and Murray? and what type of engine is it? Did it belong to Flight 175?
2) How many engines were recovered from Ground Zero? Where are the other three engines from Flight 11 and 175?
3) Is there a catalog that lists all the airplane parts recovered from GZ?
4) Is the smokey trail we see exiting the tower the engine that ended up at Church and Murray?
5) Are the tow pieces hanging (engines) come from the same engine?
6) Where are the NTSB/FBI investigative documents on this engine?
7) Why the rush to send this Engine to Fresh Kills as landfill?
8) Is it a Pratt and Whitney or a Rolls Royce Engine? Is it from a CFM56 or JT9D?

Let me stress the importance of identifying this engine. If it did come from Flight 175, then no military drones were used.

If it did not come from Flight 175, then the story we were told about what hit the towers is a fraud.


There are many different reports as to where this engine came from or what type of plane it came from. Still to this day, this engine has never been properly identified or even investigated properly.

  1. Did the engine that was found at Church and Murray belong to United flight 175 (Boeing 767)?


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